When AMERICA commemorates heroes who have sacrificed themselves to serve their countrymen, who have shown extraordinary courage, who have dedicated themselves to liberty, or who have shown incredible courage in the face of adversity, THESE are the memorials we build to honor them:
Just as a small sampling...
America builds triumphant MONOLITHS! We build soaring statues, we erect meaningful and wrenching reminders of the blood, sacrifice, and INTEGRITY of our heroes.
We don't construct namby-pamby, enemy-appeasing "Bowl of Embrace" drivel!
The concept of the "Bowl of Embrace" is just too disgusting, cowardly, and appeasing for me to outline, so I will direct you to Cao, GMan, and Justin, who offer far better descriptions and denunciations.
But never forget that when proper Americans fashion and forge a memorial to courage, honor, and bravery, we produce something that says
IN YOUR DAMN FACE!!!!
to our enemies!
This "Bowl of Embrace" is an abomination, and ought to be replaced (as should the Twin Towers) with something that BEGS the Islamofascist terrorist murderers to try and destroy them. We need to raise up memorials which scream
- We will never surrender!
- We will never back down!
- We will never forget!
- We will hunt you to the ends of the earth and destroy every last evidence and memory of your intolerant, barbaric and insane ideology!
Great shots Kat, and GREAT idea for putting up what a monument should look like.
Posted by: GM Roper | September 22, 2007 at 10:02 PM
If you want to provoke an attack, why not paint a giant picture of Mohammed doing something bad on your house/roof? Maybe you could burn Mohammed in effigy every day at 5:30pm on your lawn, too?
That would really show them and you'd be a hero to hardcore, provincial Republicans everywhere. You'd know better than I would, but maybe even Jesus would approve of your violent rage?
Doing it at your house would certainly be more courageous than encouraging people to build a new, better target in *their* community, away from you.
By the way, your bluster is amongst the best examples I have ever seen of Chickenhawkery.
And we aren't doing a very good job hunting down the enemy, are we? It's been 6 years since the attacks, we've spent almost $1 Trillion dollars on the wars and bin Laden is still out there making tapes.
Posted by: Billy Joe | October 05, 2007 at 02:43 AM
"Chickenhawkery"?
All right then, BJ... Are you a woman? No? Then you have no moral authority to speak about abortion. Are you a policeman? No? Then you have no moral authority to discuss police procedure. Are you a teacher? No? Well then, you have no moral authority to speak about education. Etc... Etc...
And where the heck do you get off implying that rage isn't "proper" for a Christian? Christians are supposed to hate that which is evil - and Islam is evil. I have no beef with those moderate muslims who aren't planning to enforce shari'a law and actively engage in jihad, just as I can coexist with a hindu or buddhist and their false religions.
But radical Islam needs to be eliminated. Their soi-disant prophet was an evil man, a murderer, a liar - and Jesus would condemn him for leading so many people away from the Truth. While I am content to let others practice their own religion and live in peace, so long as they offer me the same courtesy, Islam has no intention of coexisting peacefully.
Back to your cave, little troll - you're not going to change my mind, any more than I'm going to change yours. I have better things to do - like raising my child, loving my husband, and doing what I can to protect our American culture and heritage.
Posted by: Kat | October 05, 2007 at 06:58 AM
BillyBoppin,
What does your comment have to do with Kat's post?? She is simply making a statement about our memorials- how they should be respectful to those who earned such things and not to those who CAUSED such things. There is a difference.
When America decided to embrace it's enemies via politically correct memorials and other things, we LOSE. Whether you agree with that or not is mute. You're not off fighting to capture the enemy either my chickenhawk friend (NOT!!).
Posted by: Raven | October 05, 2007 at 08:51 AM
I feel sad for Billy Joe. You see, based on that comment, it appears that Billy Joe is someone who believes that terrorists are ONLY terrorists because the US is bad. You see, if we weren't so mean to them, they'd never attack us.
I'm sorry, Billy Joe, but there's CENTURIES of evidence to show that's simply not true. Muslims have been trying to take over the world and has been carrying out terrorist actions in their name for over a thousand years. They don't just hate you, Billy Joe, they honestly hate anyone who refuses to surrender to Islam.
Unfortunately, the planners of this memorial obviously agree with Billy Joe! They think that if we build this mosque to honor the terrorists, that all other terrorists will leave us alone. Unfortunately, that will NOT be the case. They will continue to attack and kill us until we surrender (as we are in the process of doing) or until they are dead. Have you already converted, Billy Joe, or will you be killed by terrorists?
Posted by: Ogre | October 05, 2007 at 09:22 AM
BJ is going from emotions and feelings only; to hell with facts and evidence.
He's going from the 'that's why they hate us' mantra of the political left, which is more along the lines of a Cindy Sheehan or a Michael Moore - extreme left.
There is a great book that explains the history of all this--Everlasting Hatred: The Roots of Jihad
And in it, is explained the struggle driven by a hatred that goes back over 4,000 years, and Islamic fundamentalism's purpose: to replace the Judeo-Christian world order with an Islamic world order.
9/11 was just a reminder that it's going on...and has never stopped.
The fact that the memorial memorializes the terrorists and not the heroes as Kat points out in this post, only shows how ignorant and stupid multiculturalism is; the fact that we're looking to blame ourselves for their riots over cartoons; and their holocaust denial.
It's ignorance, or a child-like blindness that sees only good from everything. Hold hands with the terrorists, and they won't kill us? Doesn't work that way when they've been raised to kill the infidel since they were little infants, and mothers celebrate the deaths of their martyr children and husbands.
In fact, Saddam Hussein used to send checks to the families of martyrs. We don't need a terrorist mosque on the Flight 93 site; that's the bottom line, and the Flight 93 memorial design by Paul Murdoch is a full-service mosque like the one in Medinah.
Many mosques memorialize their martyrs...this design is to memorialize not only the 4 terrorist hijackers of Flight 93, but also in another feature of the design, even pays tribute to the 19 hijackers that crashed into the twin towers.
Posted by: Cao | October 05, 2007 at 09:45 PM
So BJ....why do you hate America?
Posted by: kender | October 06, 2007 at 02:09 AM
Kat said this:
"This "Bowl of Embrace" is an abomination, and ought to be replaced (as should the Twin Towers) with something that BEGS the Islamofascist terrorist murderers to try and destroy them.
Maybe Kender should ask Kat why she wants them to attack America again. Her fervent hopes that Islamic terrorists will attack the US again makes her and bin Laden soulmates of sorts, doesn't it? She actually says our memorials should 'beg' them to try and destroy them.
Why does she hate America so much and why does she not construct such a memorial right on her lawn and invite them to attack her there? I stand by my assertion that that would be more courageous than screaming for such provocative memorials to be built in other people's communities.
I like it also how Kat says Islam is 'evil' but that she has no problem with moderate muslims. Christian reasoning at it's finest!
Cao, Islam isn't even 4,000 years old (nor is Christianity) so I'm not sure what your point is. It's probably worth remembering that 'Christian nations' committed some of the greatest atrocities the world has ever seen (the Holocaust) and were the main participants in the last 2 world wars which killed far more people than the 'war' we're engaged in now.
Can anyone here explain to me exactly how radical Islam will take over America, anyway? Will they use their non-existent navies to transport millions of soldiers to the US so they can invade one of the most heavily armed, non-Muslim countries in the world? I never quite understand how it's going to happen in even the next 200 years. Mormons, for example, at least look like Americans and have a religion that resembles Christianity yet even though they've been practicing (and proseltizing) their religion for about 150 years, they are still a very small minority in America. Muslims don't even go door-to-door looking for converts! Yet somehow Islam is going to take the US over? I'd be interested in knowing details of how you all think it will happen. When you have a moment, please come out from hiding under your bed and share the details with us.
Posted by: Billy Joe | October 06, 2007 at 03:57 AM
*sigh* What we have here is a lack of talent in reading comprehension. BJ, take a look at the post again. In context, the invitation for those terrorist bastards to come attack us is obviously hyperbole, used to point up the difference between the dhimmi "Bowl of Embrace" and the triumphant and meaningful monuments of proper memorials.
However, I will concede that I frequently wonder whether another attack on American soil is the only thing which will remove liberal craniums out of anal orifices. Considering that we're having this discussion only six short years after 9-11, and after almost 10,000 terrorist attacks around the world, I doubt it.
Secondly, no, I don't have a problem with "moderate muslims." If they're willing to live and let live, why should I have a problem with them? Will I refrain from witnessing to them, if I have the opportunity? No, of course not! I would be honored if God chose to use me in some small way to lift them out of their evil religion.
However, their religion is their choice. So long as they allow me the same courtesy, I can respect their choice, even though I believe it's a bad one. That's Christian tolerance. On the other hand, Islam offers only three choices to "infidels:" convert, die, or live in dhimmitude. "Moderate muslims" may not actively work for that, but that's what their religion lays down as the rules.
Tell me, BJ, what - specifically - is poorly reasoned about that?
As for the takeover of the US by radical Islam - well, it's happening in Europe, BJ. Will it happen here? I pray to God not, but with our open borders, our piss-poor security, and our collective stupidity in refusing to label Islam as the evil it is, I certainly can see it happening. It might not happen in my lifetime, but I wouldn't want my grandchildren to live as dhimmis. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." Europe is going to have to take the cure - my friends and I are working on getting America to take the prevention.
And again, I'm wondering, BJ... I don't recall your answer the last time we exchanged, er, comments (I'll have to go check)... But are you a Christian yourself? If not, you have no moral authority to have an opinion on what Jesus thinks of me (dang, that "chickenhawk" reasoning strikes again!). If you are, I would be very interested if you would explain to me the attributes of the Jesus you believe in. I'm wondering how well it might measure up to the biblical portrayal of Him.
Posted by: Kat | October 06, 2007 at 10:38 AM
Billy Troll asks how Islam is supposed to take over our country. His assertion that we are powerful and they cannot bring an army here demonstrates one dimensional thinking. This is the Muzzie Plan:
American laws will protect us.
Democrats and Leftist will support us.
The UN will legitimize us.
CAIR and MAB will incubate us.
The ACLU will support us.
Western Universities will educate us.
Mosques in the West will shelter us.
OPEC will finance us.
Moderate Muslims will fertilize us.
Hollywood will love us.
We will use your welfare system to sustain us.
As you can see, many of these things are already happening and BT is one of the willing participants because he fails to see or understand a threat.
By the BT, seems to me Kat is saying we should rebuild the towers as defiance, daring them to try again. This would be an in your face move and show the Muzzies that we are not afraid, we are ready.
As for you, dhimmi will be your title.
Posted by: Big Dog | October 06, 2007 at 11:36 AM
BD,
Thank you for lending your conspiratorial nonsense to the conversation. I wonder if all of the things you enumerate will happen in my grandchildren's lifetime? Probably not.... Nor will it even happen in Europe. Is there even a single European parliament or large corporate enterprise that has fallen under the sway of radical Muslims? Are there even any such entities where it looks like it's about to happen? I doubt it. If I'm wrong, please point it out to me.
Kat,
Like some of your right-wing friends, I'm not a practicing Christian. People like you turn me away from Christianity, with your church-lady like demeanor and thirst for war. I saw Billy Graham on Hannity and Colmes a few years ago and Graham said that if you looked at Jesus' life, he was very liberal: turn the other cheek, love they enemy, helping the poor, etc. Maybe I'm wrong. Was Jesus out exterminating opponents of Christianity or helping the already wealthy get wealthier?
Your bin Laden-like hopes for another attack on America have been duly noted and I'll post about them at my blog. I like your Christlike reference to 'anal orifices'. Very classy. I can definitely feel your Christian love for others.
You mention 10,000 attacks since 9/11. Do you know how that compares to pre-9/11? Because if we were actually 'winning' the war on terror, don't you think the number of terrorist attacks would have gone down since 9/11? I look forward to your well-considered - and hopefully well supported (with numbers & evidence) - answer.
Posted by: Billy Joe | October 06, 2007 at 11:33 PM
Ooooh, "church lady"! Aw, my fweewing are hurted!
BJ, you really don't know much about the Bible, do you? Did you know that Jesus actually taught more about Hell than He did about Heaven? Do you know that He said "No one comes to the Father except by Me"?
I adore Billy Graham - he is a man of grace and humility and integrity. But, if he has one fault, it is that he doesn't talk much about God's coming judgment, which is clearly outlined in the Bible. You ought to take a look at Matthew 25, for a start. Or, how about a quote from the book of Revelation?
Unfortunately, you cannot see or accept anything but a Jesus who is namby-pamby and ineffectual, so you think His followers must therefore be weak little doormats. HOGWASH!Mohammed was a false prophet, and the people his satan-inspired religion has deceived are in danger of eternity in Hell. Unless they repent, there is no hope for them - not MY opinion, that's the Bible talking. A Christian's duty is to fight evil and to stand for the Truth whenever possible, but we are not called to convert people by the sword, as Islam is. Therefore, I believe it is my Christian duty to fight against Islamofascist terrorism in whatever small way I can - and little dhimmis like you aren't going to stop me.
And don't forget, according to your own "chickenhawk" reasoning, since you're not a "practicing Christian" (and therefore no Christian at all, biblically), you have no moral authority to whine to me about my behavior. I will confess that your swaggering condescension really gets my back up - but "turn the other cheek," as I've already stated, does NOT require me to be a doormat. Jude 3 commands us to "earnestly contend for the faith which was delivered to us." In your case, I'm quite determined to follow my Savior's example and say, "Woe unto you, scribes and pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in."
As for the rest, BD has already said it to my satisfaction. If you want to follow your current path, fine, but then get the heck out of our way - we will not submit!
Now, go play in your own sandbox, I've had enough of you.
Posted by: Kat | October 07, 2007 at 08:57 AM
Jesus did indeed say to turn the other cheek. You only have two and he did not say to keep turning them. We turned our cheeks many times and now we have slapped back.
BT, look at the EU, particularly France. Their new pres might be able to stop the tide but it is happening. England was nearly taken over when Mohammad and his people tried to take over the world (the reason we had the crusades you like to call our violent, unprovoked attacks). If not for the crusades England would be Muslim and by extension, so would we...
Posted by: Big Dog | October 07, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Billy Joe is so blind he refuses to see facts. I guess he just sees what he wants to see and nothing else. That list Big Dog mentioned isn't going to happen in your grandchildren's lifetime -- it's happening NOW. Right this minute. Heck, we already have one Muslim Congressman and may soon have a Muslim president. That's one front in their battle against the west -- if they can make the laws, you can be sure the laws will be Sharia law. It's what they do, whether you want to admit it or not.
Posted by: Ogre | October 07, 2007 at 01:43 PM
Yes, BJ, I disappeared your comment. I told you I was sick of you. And, no, I didn't read it first. Buh-bye.
Posted by: Kat | October 08, 2007 at 06:10 AM