Via NewsBusters, I see this heinous and disgusting article by Nicholas Provenzo in "The Rule of Reason" -
Like many, I am troubled by the implications of Alaska governor and Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's decision to knowingly give birth to a child disabled with Down syndrome. Given that Palin's decision is being celebrated in some quarters, it is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus)—a freedom that anti-abortion advocates seek to deny. [emphasis mine]
"It is crucial to reaffirm the morality" of killing an innocent life?! I cannot believe that millions of people in this formerly godly country have been deluded by this lie, and that this person would be so obscenely brazen as to proclaim it. I am amazed that God in His forbearance has not yet judged us severely for allowing the daily murder of thousands of unborn children.
But make no mistake: God is allowing America to heap up the full measure of our sin, and He will pour out His wrath on us in due time.
And Mr. Provenzo, God has something to say to you:
The wicked are estranged from the womb;
They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.
I would suggest that this appears to be an accurate description of you and your opinion of the unborn children whose murder you endorse. It would actually be far more just and "moral" if you were to say that you should have been aborted!
God affirms that all children, born and unborn, are a blessing:
Behold, children are a heritage from the LORD,
The fruit of the womb is a reward.
The Psalmist rejoices that
... You formed my inward parts;
You covered me in my mother’s womb.
I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Marvelous are Your works,
And that my soul knows very well.
My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.
And in Your book they all were written,
The days fashioned for me,
When as yet there were none of them.
God knows the end from the beginning, and He knows what is in the heart of every man.
Mr. Provenzo, though you may not believe in Him or His Word, God knows you inside and out. One day, you will stand before Him, and He will judge you. And woe unto you if He should say:
“‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels, for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
“Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Take careful heed, Mr. Provenzo, lest your pride, arrogance and callousness be your eternal downfall.
I pray that America will return to her senses and decide that the "freedom" of abortion is only another kind of slavery and will vehemently renounce it in sorrow and grief for all those already murdered.
First, Nick Provenzo has responded to the many misrepresentations of his views in a followup post at:
http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/2008/09/fundamental-right-to-abortion.htm
Second, I'm going to speak up to support Nick Provenzo's *moral* defense of the 90% of women who have learned that their fetus has DS and who eventually chose to abort.
If a woman takes a serious look at the consequences for her life of having an abortion vs. raising that child, and she decides that an abortion would best foster her happiness in the full context of her life, then that is her legal right. And more importantly, she would also be making the *morally* right choice for herself.
Of course, if a woman chooses to have the DS child, that is her right and I genuinely hope that things work out as well as possible for the child and the family.
But to uphold the 10% women who choose to have the DS child as automatically morally superior to the 90% who choose to abort is wrong.
Those women who have made the difficult decision to abort do not deserve to be tarred with the label "murderer" for choosing their own happiness. And anyone who would attempt to saddle those women with an unearned guilt should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by: Paul Hsieh | September 18, 2008 at 04:59 PM
You see, Paul, how debased your reasoning has become? You place someone's "happiness" above the life of a child. Choosing life is morally superior; it is the RIGHT thing to do.
As to saddling women with "unearned guilt" - murder is, in fact, what they have done, and the guilt is the natural consequence of a rational mind. If these women deny their guilt, they are not living in reality, and therefore cannot properly deal with the real, earned guilt they feel.
You would apparently have them continue to live in denial, and to suffer that haunting ghost for the rest of their lives. I, on the other hand, would prefer they face up to reality and admit their guilt and get help from the only One who can truly forgive and heal them.
As for Mr. Provenzo's response to the "misrepresentations" of his position, I'm not interested. His opening paragraph in the linked article made his position perfectly clear, and any attempt to back-pedal or to further justify his pro-abortion views merely continues to point out his own moral depravity.
Abortion is an abomination before God, and we ought to be horrified and revolted by it. And before you tar ME with the "unfeeling, uncaring conservative Christian" label, remember that my God can forgive ANYTHING, so long as you come to Him through His Son, repent of your sins, and ask His help to live in His grace.
For all the stumbles and failings I have had in my own Christian walk, I am well aware that we all need His grace and mercy every day. For all that He has done for
me, the least I can do is refuse to call evil "good"!
Posted by: Kat | September 18, 2008 at 05:59 PM
Paul --
Please explain to the rest of the class the morality of saying a child should be killed for the sake of convenience?
We hear the same excuses from the radical lefties over and over again... the child is unwanted, a minority, crippled, disfigured, unloved, financially unneeded, blah blah blah. Arguments when we encounter them outside the womb we respond with compassion, but inside the womb we respond with abortion? What gives?
The end result? A mother, typically pushed into an abortion, makes a decision to kill her child based upon pressure from outside groups, often times against her will and without the full picture (e.g. most mothers can't even see their ultrasound in most abortion clinics -- even if they ask).
The winner? Not the child, not the mother, but certainly the abortion clinic that just took $300 from another customer. Next in line please.
Even the hardest of hearts in the pro-abortion movement have the conscience to concede that abortion is immoral and tragic. To make an argument that abortion is moral for the sake of convenience isn't rooted in right action at all -- just cold and corporate IMO.
...things I thought real Democrats opposed.
Just a thought.
Posted by: Shaun Kenney | September 18, 2008 at 06:19 PM
Kat,
I'm not sure, but I think this offer to Bristol Palin is a serious proffer. Unbelievable!
Posted by: Always On Watch | September 18, 2008 at 06:37 PM
Having an abortion isn't the guilt-free process it's often cracked up to be.
No, I haven't had an abortion. But I know several who have. And none of them -- not one -- didn't have feelings of guilt for years. Why? Because in their souls they know that, no matter the rationale, abortion ends the life of a human being.
Posted by: Always On Watch | September 18, 2008 at 06:39 PM
Yeah, AOW, I saw that, too. Further proof of how tolerant and compassionate the left is, don'tcha think? [rolls eyes]
Please excuse me while I go vomit!
And I know a few women who have had abortions, too. AOW's statement is no lie...
Posted by: Kat | September 18, 2008 at 06:49 PM
Where is this moral code written that places happiness, or even convenience, over life? Please name the religion of the people who believe this? Who is the author of their moral code?
Or,is the situational ethics of the code of making-it-up-as-we-go-along?
Posted by: James Atticus Bowden | September 18, 2008 at 06:51 PM
JAB --
Where is this moral code written that places happiness, or even convenience, over life? Please name the religion of the people who believe this? Who is the author of their moral code?
Objectivism, it would seem...
Posted by: Shaun Kenney | September 18, 2008 at 06:54 PM
Where is this moral code written that places happiness, or even convenience, over life? Please name the religion of the people who believe this? Who is the author of their moral code?
That's called secular humanism, where living the best unimpeded life possible in a hedonistic fashion IS the religion of the left. This came about when they denied and after life and decided they'd better get what they could now. Thing is if they're right nobody will ever know, but if they are wrong who will be laughing then?
Not those who murder children for convenience.
And Paul? You seem to have a handicap. It seems your compassion gland is missing and the area of your brain which processes common sense and decency has shriveled.
Please have yourself aborted post haste so as not to be a burden on society or inflict your condition upon anyone else.
Thank You.
Posted by: kender | September 18, 2008 at 09:00 PM
Kender has such a way with words.
Posted by: Always On Watch | September 18, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Un like those who proclaim their committment to "choice" I AM for choice in the matter of abortion. I think we should give each fetus the right to choose whether he or she wants to be aborted. Of course, that would require waiting until they knew what choices were available to them...
Posted by: David | September 19, 2008 at 05:25 AM
Using Mr. Paul Hsieh's argument, it appears that Paul should be killed. You see, Paul claims that killing people should be okay if it's done to increase one's happiness. Reading his comment makes me unhappy. Therefore, it is morally and even legally permissible to kill Paul. Can anyone see any difference at all between the two situations?
Keep in mind, this is not my actual point of view, this Paul's point of view.
Posted by: Ogre | September 19, 2008 at 08:53 AM
Abortion is simply a form of birth control. It's a last resort, plan D type of thing- a back up to those who forgot to use take their pill or for those who just don't bother to think of these things first.
Before Roe Vs Wade, and used as an argument for it, much attention was given to the back alley abortions and horrors of it: Much of that was incidental evidenced based bullshite, and hyped to the max. Less women were "harmed" during those times than have actually died as a result of our now safe abortions.
Having a disabled child used to be a unfortunate thing; families and communities would rally to help the mother with the tasks and costs associated with raising the child. As time moved along, these kids were shunned and placed in institutions far away and out of sight. They got no love. And the Mothers lost no fun and good time.
Since abortion became legal, the market for testing for handicaps has grown- they look for and can identify many ailments, many potential ailments...and now they can actually isolate exactly what genes a human carries which means they know which babies will develop cancer, Alzheimer's, yada yada. In some countries, women abort babies who have these genes; it's easier than educating the child and someday adult to be aware and how to break the gene cycle with good medical care.
Many women go to foreign countries to abort babies who don't meet the standards: Cleft palate, a condition that can be easily corrected with minor surgery, is often listed as a reason for abortion. Also, sick as it is, women abort babies who have dark hair vs. blond; girl vs. boy, 6 fingers vs 5 and so on.
The perfection factor is a huge factor. Why are we so focused on this??
Society has done a good job too, with convincing women that a disabled child is the END of the WORLD.
Abortion has become a duty, an expectation, to women whose unborn babies are known to have almost any form of a disability. Scorn awaits those who chose life.
And pro-abortion people are threatened by women who made the choice for life. A high profile woman is always going to be the subject of hate and vile discussion.
See that HERE.
See the society threat HERE
And remember: More humans have died of abortion than all than died in ALL WARS combined, that have died during all epidemics, died of all diseases, than any other reason for death. That's big. Society should be ashamed of itself.
Posted by: Raven | September 19, 2008 at 09:58 AM
Ogre:
Your reasoning is sound! I too, am "unhappy", with the Pauls of the world. "Offended", even. As Obamanation said, "why should I be punished with a" Paul?
Ergo, I would add that the only difference between Paul and an unborn child, is that he has the ability to defend himself, whereas the unborn child does not. People like Paul are just bullies too cowardly to pick on somebody their own size. I think Paul should be sentenced to hard-core sensitivity and diversity training in a North Korean pr... errr... luxury resort.
Posted by: Sillie Lizzie | September 24, 2008 at 05:19 AM